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Offline 2012StreetT

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Battery Help
« on: September 19, 2019, 08:26:43 PM »
Looking for a new battery for my 2012 Street Triple (under seat exhaust), my bike can go a while without being started and just looking for something that will fit right in as a direct replacement.

Any recommendations?

 

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Re: Battery Help
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2019, 12:28:45 PM »
Are you asking for advice on a direct replacement (same Ampere hour) or are you after a battery with more capacity (higher Ah) that will fit into the same compartment?

I'm guessing that your thinking is that the battery with a higher Ah will be more likely to be able to start the bike if you haven't ridden for a few weeks?
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Re: Battery Help
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2019, 01:21:02 PM »
You could always try a lithium battery. I've had mine for a couple of years now and it holds its charge very well in between rides. It's also 2.1kgs lighter than the lead acid one it replaced. However, since buying mine I've read quite a few people saying it's not a good idea to use them on bikes in case they get overcharged. Best do a bit of research about that and their cold weather performance for yourself. For me it has worked out very well so far though. I also bought a lithium compatible trickle charger.

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Re: Battery Help
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2019, 02:30:48 PM »
A Lithium battery will give good output right to the end of it's charge - rather than gradually tail off like a lead-acid cell.

But.... A 12 volt Lithium battery does not like charge voltages above about 14.4v. So if your reg/rec (or your battery charger) is not controlling the charge voltage satisfactorily you may be overcharging the battery (& it could even go bang?).

Having said that, I use a Lithium battery on my old ('89) TDR250 & although it rarely does round trips of more than about 30 miles (mostly stop & start through town and on B roads) I haven't noticed any problems - and nothing has gone bang.  :038:
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Re: Battery Help
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2019, 06:16:03 PM »
Lithium batteries have negligible self discharge so don't go flat when disconnected, but they have much lower capacity than lead acid so go flat quicker if you have an alarm for example, or if the bike has any sort of drain current. And I've read that they wont recover once flat so best do your research before commiting. You can't really go wrong if you disconnect it between rides.

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Re: Battery Help
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2019, 08:13:41 PM »
*Originally Posted by tim.8061 [+]
Lithium batteries have negligible self discharge so don't go flat when disconnected, but they have much lower capacity than lead acid so go flat quicker if you have an alarm for example, or if the bike has any sort of drain current. And I've read that they wont recover once flat so best do your research before commiting. You can't really go wrong if you disconnect it between rides.
Correct, alarms and other accessories that draw a small continuous current are not Lithium Ion battery friendly.
Also, most Lithium Ion batteries will have a built in "Supervisory Circuit" that will disconnect the cells when they are above or below the recommended voltages.
So there are advantages & disadvantages to whatever you decide to go with.
Whatever you opt for, I think the best option is a trickle charger whilst the bike is not in use?

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Re: Battery Help
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2019, 06:44:11 AM »
I am looking for a direct replacement, just the standard one should be fine.

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Re: Battery Help
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2019, 08:02:03 AM »
I quite like Yuasa batteries - others don't. I use them at/for work and rarely have a problem with the way they perform (if properly looked after). They're usually available at your local Halfrauds and therefore you will always have somebody to shout at if it needs to go back for any reason.

Lots of people like Motobatt.

They're all "maintenance free" these days. Personally, I'd avoid most of the cheap Chinese stuff (quality control is pretty poor) & completely unknown brands (again, many of these are Chinese).
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Re: Battery Help
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2019, 10:24:19 AM »
*Originally Posted by sabre [+]

Lots of people like Motobatt.


I have Motobatt in all my bikes bar one: a newish Tiger 800.
Motobatts are my preference, as they have four terminals:



It's so much easier to add accessories.

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Re: Battery Help
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2019, 07:44:07 PM »
Thanks for your your responses.

Think Im going for either the Motobatt MBTX9U or Yuasa YTX9-BS.

I have a AGM setting on my battery charger so the Motobatt wouldnt be an issue.

Is the Motobatt a direct swap for original battery on a 12 Street triple.

 


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